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#WritingTips from Jerry Jenkins(@JerryBJenkins) with thanks to Jane Friedman (@JaneFriedman) and a question of websites. Ah, and me, on the #radio. This time interviewed!

Hi all.

If you’re regular reader of Lit. World Interviews you’ll recognise this post, but although originally I was only going to ask you a question, I thought I my as well share this with you too (especially because Canva proved very temperamental and it took me a great deal of time). But don’t miss the question at the end! Or to check the surprise!  (sorry, things kept piling up!)

Here it goes:
I don’t know you, but I have recently been attending many webinars, on different topics. Recently (22nd October) I attended a free webinar organised by Jane Friedman that had Jerry Jenkins (21 times New York Times best selling author) as guest, on the Secrets of Storytelling.

I’ve read, listened to, and attended courses, lectures and seminars, on writing. And like all advice, some will resonate more with some people than others. Although the seminar seemed geared towards people who were trying to find their confidence writing (if one ever gets there) rather than seasoned scribblers, I enjoyed the personal wisdom and Jerry’s style of delivery, and I thought I’d try and bring you some nuggets from it, especially as I know that quite a few people are going for NaNoWriMo. I decided to try and make it less boring with images, but we shall see if it works…

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Although most are self-explanatory, I thought I’d give a few pointers on some.

  1. Jerry Jenkins said that formulas don’t really work, as they make the story seem… well, formulaic, I guess. He referred to Dean Koontz How to Write Best Selling Fiction when talking about the classic structure. His brief summary was: Plunge your character into a terrible situation; everything he tries to do makes the situation worse; things look hopeless, and hero saves the day (by doing what he’s learned on the way).
  2. In reference to his previous point, he said that although you have to put your characters in extreme situations, it’s best not to start the novel at that point, because it’s better to build up the character so that the reader gets to care for him, or her (or them).
  3. I think it’s self-explanatory. Don’t hit the readers in the head with a hammer, although for him, there’s always a message, otherwise there’s no novel.
  4. There isn’t always romance in all novels (or movies, it might depend on genre) but it’s very common. He gave many examples of not very original ways of introducing the love interest (although referring to movies, characters bumping into each other, blind date…), but it all depends on how it’s done.
  5. His advice, that I’ve seen in many places, is that it’s best to get the story down once you get writing, and not try to edit at the same time. He said that he’d edit first thing the next day what he’d written the previous day. In the case of NaNoWriMo, unless your brain goes completely blank and can’t remember what you’ve written, it’s probably best to keep going…
  6. Nothing to add (unless it’s a peculiarity of a character).
  7. I couldn’t find a colour that would show well, so I’m transcribing: Writers are readers. Read in your genre, but also read about the craft of writing. He mentioned quite a few of his favourite books, but the world (or the library) is your oyster.
  8. In discussing point of view of the character he reminded the audience that it’s like the camera we see the action through. He mentioned the most common (first person narrated in past tense, or third person limited), and noted that perhaps for somebody starting to write, first person might be easier. He talked about his own experience of struggling with one of his stories and how he heard a particular character talking in the first person in his head, and that was it.
  9. This is a very personal take on the matter, but he observed that sometimes other characters in the story might take over and run with it.
  10. He didn’t seem to be a big lover of flashbacks explaining the background story, as he felt they slowed down the action. In real life we get to know people gradually.
  11. This one sounds a bit zen, but he referred to himself as a pantser, and said that sometimes you might get to a certain ending through writing the story, and that’s a perfect way to make sure that it’s surprising to the reader, because it’s a surprise to you too.
  12. If you’re worried, you’re in the right track. He referred to this as the ‘Exponential multiplication of emotions’ equation. If you feel sad at some point in your story, the reader will feel the same but magnified. And if you feel bored… well, you get the gist.
  13. You’re not alone. His message was that if you get stuck, there are many places where you can get help, be it virtual or real writers’ groups (his comments were invaluable but…), coaches, books, other writers…

You can check Jerry Jenkins’s page here

http://www.jerryjenkins.com/

He offers courses, including one was promoting seminars later in October, but you can check his page and that of Jane for more information if you’re an interested (I have no connection with them other than attending the webinar, that was free).

 

And here, the question. I’ve been debating what to do with my website. I have a separate website (apart from this blog), here. I got the domain before I started publishing books, after reading how important it is to have your own website. As I knew nothing about how to create a website, I contracted a programme, also with GoDaddy, that facilitated the creation of one’s own website, without requiring any programming knowledge. Even with that, it’s a bit cumbersome to make many alterations to it, and it’s fairly static. I’ve never had much traffic going through it, and have more people reading my blog (that I also share there, but a lot of the readers come directly from WordPress). I’ve been thinking for a while that I’d be better off getting rid of my separate website and just having my blog/website, here, in WordPress. I investigated, and it’s possible to use your own domain (also to buy your personal one through WordPress, but I already have my own) to host the blog (here some information I found about it). Because of other things that I want to explore in the future, I’m considering moving to one of their premium plans (some info here). Now, the programme I mentioned for creating websites is live for me (I’ve paid for it already) until the end of July 2016. And no, it’s non-refundable. Of course, if I move the blog to my domain at www.OlgaNM.com, that site will disappear (I also have the instructions on the Go Daddy side of things, here). Part of my thoughts have to do with changing a few things here (I’ve been adding stuff, but I want to get rid of some too), so I’m not that concerned about what it looks like. I plan on that changing at some point.

What I wanted to ask is if any of you have done this (or part of it) and how have you found it. I’m not the most technical of people, and although I know there’s support available, I want to try and keep it complication free. Any thoughts or personal experience would be greatly appreciated.

And the surprise. Here I’m being interviewed by Freddy Piedrahita. We’ll be running a programme interviewing writers and artists in the future. Have a listen and see if you’d like to join in!

http://www.spreaker.com/user/emotionalhealth1/olga-nunez-interview

Thanks to Jane Friedman and Jerry Jenkins for the the webinar and thanks to you all for reading, and for your help. Do take care, and good writing. And of course, don’t forget to like, share, comment, and CLICK!

 

By olganm

I am a language teacher, writer, bookworm, and collaborator at Sants 3 Ràdio (a local radio station in Barcelona, where I returned in 2018), who lived in the UK for 25 years and worked for many years as a forensic psychiatrist there. I also have a Ph.D. in American Literature and an MSc in Criminology. I started publishing my stories, in English and Spanish, in 2012 and now have over twenty books available in a variety of genres, a blog (in English and Spanish), and translate books for other authors (English-Spanish and vice versa). In 2020 obtained the CELTA certificate as a language teacher, and offer Spanish and English classes. Writers and readers both in English and Spanish are my friends, colleagues, and allies, and after living in the UK for over twenty-five years, have returned home, to Barcelona, Spain, searching for inspiration for my stories. I also love owls and try to keep fit following fitness YouTube videos.
Do feel free to connect with me. Here are:
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http://OlgaNM.wordpress.com

48 replies on “#WritingTips from Jerry Jenkins(@JerryBJenkins) with thanks to Jane Friedman (@JaneFriedman) and a question of websites. Ah, and me, on the #radio. This time interviewed!”

Thanks, Teagan. I think the setting up might be complicated and the change of address might have consequences with regards to followers, but it should make life easier and bring more possibilities later… We’ll see.

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Thank you for sharing this! I’m writing my first novel (if you can call it that) for NaNoWriMo. I’m really nervous, because I’m not really a writer by trade, and I’ve never written anything longer than a short story before. I’ve been nursing these characters in my head for about a year, and I already have come up with a lot of ideas for what happens in the story.

Anyway, as for your question, I’m not sure. I’m pretty tech-savvy, but I’ve never gone the route of paying for anything on WordPress. I would say that if you get the majority of your readers through WordPress, it makes more sense to just keep your blog. But, I’m not expert, and have no experience there. Just wanted to chime in.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

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Thanks Juana, and good luck with NaNoWriMo. I enjoyed taking part last year and it was a good way to get the draft done, although in my case it was the third book in a series, so I knew the characters in the story very well. Do keep going, it’s the most important thing.
Yes, I think you’re right about the blog. I’m also more used to changing things and updating them here, and there are a lot of plug-ins, etc, for WordPress, so probably it would be easier to add things as I go along.
I like the free version but you have the issue of the ads and also the limitations if you consider using it for commercial or promotional purposes beyond your own content, that it’s not allowed…

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A superb post, one I will come back to tomorrow….there’s much to digest and for me to learn from. I am off to a friend’s Mother’s funeral today – but thank you Olga….good to back and hopefully by next week, I will be back on track…..Janet. x

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Thanks Janet. Sorry to hear about your friend’s Mother. I’m sure you’ll be of comfort to her. I hope the technical problems are sorted and must try and catch up with you (coming to London probably on Sunday…). ♥ Love to your friend.

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All things being equal, technical issues seem to be resolved. The ‘celebration of Margaret’s life’ was lovely. She died aged 94, and was ready….as she had lost sight in both eyes and dementia had set in. She was a truly lovely human being, and I feel blessed to have known her. Yes, do let me know what your plans are in the UK….Janet. xx

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♥ I’m pleased to read that you’ll dedicate more time to your painting, even if that means we don’t see you around the blog that much. And looking forward to the book!

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Yes, thanks! I was going to thank you in the post but I kept adding more and more things! An amazing place. Tonnes of great stuff. I uploaded some of mine too, but I don’t think any are good enough for the site.

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With the magic you apply to the pictures I’m sure even one of mine would look good! I’ll keep you posted if I hear anything back from them. If they like them I don’t mind posting more. I think it’s only fair.

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I haven’t done this myself, though I have researched the idea. My experience with some other bloggers who have transferred from a blog to a personal website, is that once the wordpress platform is removed, it is slightly harder to follow and comment, but still possible of course.
As a published writer, I think you should have your own website, as it will always come across as more professional and established to those unfamiliar with blogging. I understand that websites are less user-friendly than blog hosts, but I am sure it will be worth the effort, especially as you have already had to pay in advance.
I enjoyed listening to your interview. It was great to finally hear your voice after all this time!
Best wishes, Pete.

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Hi Pete. Thanks for your comment about the interview.
Thanks for the comment. I would still have a website, only it would be a WordPress style one, that many people use. The one I have now it’s already there, and I’ve changed it over the years, but to add functionality I would have to change many things, pay more, and I don’t think the practicalities of it would improve. I keep discovering new options to customize WordPress, but I guess it’s a matter of deciding if I want to keep my other domain, or just keep the website there as it is until it comes to the end of the term I’ve paid, and purchase a different domain here (and upgrade to a paid option). One of the ways to track sales and act on them is to become an affiliate of somewhere like Amazon, but that’s not possible with the free WordPress option and I don’t get enough traffic to my website to be eligible for it there (I’m not sure I do here, but there for sure not…).

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Perhaps Nicholas Rossis could give you some good advice? he seems to have the blog/site/Amazon thing sorted, and he is always so helpful, and a real gentleman. Just a thought.

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Best wishes, Pete.

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Thanks Pete. Great idea! I’m in an author group with Nicholas, but we’re so many people I don’t get to talk to him directly very often. I’ll see if I can catch up with him. I signed up for a branding course that might be helpful (or confuse matters even more, who knows) and found out about an interesting plug in to add pages to WordPress very easily (without coding or anything) called Optimize Press, that I haven’t tried yet.

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Thanks for sharing these handy tips Olga. I am listening to your radio interview whilst typing this, and am enjoying it! I love the fact that you were only going to stay here in the UK for a few years, but are still here more than 20 years later! 🙂

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Thanks Edwina. I’m sure I’m not unique in that, but I identify with the Dixie Chicks when they say that they always take the ‘long way round’. I always find deviations in my path, and seemed set on exploring each and everyone of them. 🙂

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Thanks Patrick. Although I’m not attending his course at the moment (far too many things going on), by being on his list he sends tips and suggestions once a week, so it’s well worth checking out. Be well!

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I did a personal session on social media (mainly my website and blog) with an expert at the Society of Authors – Kristen Harrison http://www.thecurvedhouse.com/about/. She advised me to incorporate my static website into my active blog. This made sense as I was hardly ever updating my website (as I had to work on an old laptop) and I was very active on my blog. However, when I tried to do this I realised how very limited WordPress is on the design side. So I found a way to migrate iWeb (the old MAC web design software) from my laptop to my much newer iMac, and I redesigned the old-fashioned webpages. It is a bit cumbersome having the two sites, but they do very different jobs. I keep autobiographical and book information on the website and update at intervals. It is extremely flexible and I can make it look any way I want to. I keep interaction with bloggers and other writers on the WordPress blog, but I don’t waste time on changing the graphic aspects of it. Good luck!

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Thanks Hilary. I don’t have a MAC so that’s not an option for me. I think (for what I’ve read and seen) that wordpress.org and using their paid programmes give you plenty of options for design. I understand there are many people who produce designs for WordPress, but I’m rubbish with visuals, so something easy would do for me (I find websites with too many bells and whistles too distracting). I have the blog as one of the pages in my website, but nobody ever goes there. I’m investigating the issue of cloud hosting and seeing what WordPress recommends (at the moment they’re revising their hosting recommendations). I want to be able to do something different and have more flexibility. We shall see. Thanks for the expertise.

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They are all in the same blog and come out in the same day only a few minutes difference. I suspect you only need to click on the previous post. They aren’t separate blogs, it’s the same one. Thanks. 🙂

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Hi Olga, a really good informative post. Thank you. I also have two websites (actually I have three because we have an apartment we let to holiday makers – but that’s beside the point) My website:- judithbarrow.co.uk I tend to use for personal posts and my interviews with/to other authors and http://judithbarrowblog.com/ for everyday shares of all things (and I copy and paste my own stuff into it). The first I’ve had from the beginning and is much as it initially was but I think it looks better than barrowblogs. I’m never sure how to improve the latter and am always looking for hints – although I resent spending too much time on it (writing is so much more fun and – as I often say to my husband when faced with changing a light bulb or putting in petrol in the car – ‘I’m admin not technical’ – doesn’t work, of course!!) Sorry, I’m no use at all. am I? Sorry – but good to chat.Jx

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Thanks, Judith. I enjoyed the webinar and he sends tips every week in his newsletter, so I’m sure I’ll be sharing some again in the future. I have no husband so I’m a bit stuck with trying to manage (I have a cousin who is into computers but he’s not a blogger and doesn’t have website, so no help there). I might get somebody to do it (I think WordPress do it themselves if you ask and pay). I would try but worry I might break it…;)

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